troy_k

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 12:45:16 PM
"We import the most oil from Canada. However these projects may be ruining the environment more than the burning of coal. Conservation keeps your money in your pocket."The oil sands account for 5% of Canada's total emissions. To put it another way; they represent 0.1% of total global emissions. You could shut down all oil sands production tomorrow and China would replace those emissions with new coal fired power generation inside 1 month.
Also, when you hear someone say that there development is destroying the enviroment in northern Alberta remember this. They have the same land mass footprint as the John F. Kennedy Space Center in Florida. You could fit more then a few Florida's inside northern Alberta and most of that land is pristine wilderness.
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Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:18:13 PM
WE LOVE YOU..YOU CRAZY CANDIANS!!
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1006

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 6:13:00 AM
thanks Uncle curt
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knot2swift

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:34:24 PM
Tar Sands only need a price of about $50 a barrel.
Many projects got put on hold last spring thanks to oil less than that. I think another whole year of sustained $70+ a barrel will put about $100 billion worth of projects put off back on line.
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VWC

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:31:39 PM
What we should look at is not their net profit but their profit margin. The make big bucks because they sell a lot of their product.
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ndhoanggia

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:24:58 PM
@DEG, yeah, how?
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divebomber

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Nebraska
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:24:51 PM
The more they make the more $$$$$$$$$ we pay.
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DrLyon

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:19:38 PM
Marathon is not competing here in Michigan. Speedway is there subsidiary company here and locally they are not the best price. Usually Mobil is. Further in the are there have been several Marathon stations close...
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johnrb

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:14:34 PM
So they make more because they are not shipping it so far and it's subsidized by the Canadians. Pity we don't see the benefit of cheaper prices!
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:07:47 PM
And how is this being translated to prices at the pump?
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TheSnowstorm

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 6:05:49 PM
There must be a premium on the barrel from the tar sands.
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oldosc8

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:55:18 PM
keep on drilling...
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Jarod13

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:54:15 PM
It just goes to show how overpriced a barrel of oil is.
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DrCashFlow

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:53:19 PM
impressive, as oil sands are not cheap extraction territory per barrel.
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djtdi

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:47:13 PM
Good for Shell and its cohorts. It takes money to make money as the article shows, profit seems to be 100% of cost.
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:43:08 PM
Not if the EnviroNazis have their way.
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Zeke33

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:41:49 PM
It jsut goes to show how overpriced a barrel of oil is.
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tc316

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:36:08 PM
Good for Shell
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threewheeler

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:27:47 PM
as long as this keeps oil prices down and jobs in NA
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30mpg80

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:25:45 PM
This proves plenty of money to be made from oilsand deposits. Drill more, now, more prodution from Canada and USA. Send less money to OPEC.
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:24:21 PM
What changes will I see at the pump?
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Helms

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:23:53 PM
good day for canada (and shell) eh?
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mvosevich

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:22:45 PM
To bad for OPEC.
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letmathe

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:22:32 PM
OHMS ... fun comment, except that consumers get to pay or walk!
Now that's having some flesh in the game!!
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LPman

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:21:43 PM
Big oil making big $$$$
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sjl08203

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:21:11 PM
If it is not from the mid-east,t is good
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:19:37 PM
This is one shell game where the consumer doesn't have much chance of getting a stake
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eddmac

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:08:26 PM
As resources shrink more of this will happen
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imadriver

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:06:34 PM
It is better to have a North American neighbor doing well with its oil-sand mining than to have an OPEC nation experience ever-increasing profits from what lies beneath its sand.
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nojsts

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:06:23 PM
Will this make gas cheaper?
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emptytank08

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:03:34 PM
How much is this going to cost us
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Ken2OD

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:03:20 PM
Ask and ye shall receive. I commented just yesterday about more getting information regarding oil sands, and here it is today.
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esquared

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 5:00:54 PM
MiniFan, not unless we cut consumption simultaneously.
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MiniFan

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:55:20 PM
is this going to lower our prices?
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opecsucks76

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:53:02 PM
It is a labor intensive effort to get the oil out of the sand
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arinkrat17

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:44:51 PM
oil always makes a profit
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mickealo

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Spokane
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:41:16 PM
oil will always be profitable for oil company because they just raise price when ever they want
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MDTDriver

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:33:50 PM
oil profit no matter what they do
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4warned

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:29:28 PM
Oil still making good profits no matter where they mine.
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kingpin6

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:23:59 PM
Somebody had to take a chance on the oil sands. Might play out better than I thought it would.
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Retowered

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:19:00 PM
Good for Shell, hope it works out.
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NavyStore

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:17:53 PM
Yeah! or Boo!... Tar Sands are an ecological mess and I don't care if an oil company makes money, because in the end they are just another form of drug pusher.
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ricker8

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:13:45 PM
great, more jobs
[Edited by: ricker8 at 3/20/2010 5:13:59 PM EST]
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sivart

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:11:06 PM
I hope they are doing it environmentally clean!
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skynet

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:08:54 PM
That's pretty awesome for Shell and Canada.
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niceguytx

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:08:32 PM
I wonder how true that is and whether it can last.
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BurntOrange

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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:07:23 PM
Interesting.
I wonder how their cost per barrel compares to their original plan.
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aarrrt

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 4:05:44 PM
I thought the process was too expensive, guess they did ok.
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:54:57 PM
hopefully we will not need that much oil in 40 years
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RoadhogMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 3:51:45 PM
Good for Shell.
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